p.2 Gary Stearman-- believers/ prophets that time travel to know the future
God knows the future from the beginning. He controls our present – to its moving to the future. He does not need to time travel and neither do prophets to give the message of the future to the people of their day.
Instead of leading believers into Gods ability and sovereignty over all things he is introducing a concept that the Bible has nothing to say about.
Speaking of Ezekiel, Stearman writes:
“The spot upon which he stood was not merely a geographic location; it was, in fact, a time/space coordinate. He was a time traveler.” “ prophets are real men travelling in real time . Elijah departs in the days of Ahaz and Jezebel in the 9th century B.C., and returns at the time of Christ and His disciples. He is scheduled to appear again in our near future.”
There is absolutely no Scripture given that solidifies this. Stearman has an alternate explanation of Jesus’ appearances, that he too is a time traveler:
“On that first Sunday, then, all He had to do was walk to the designated spot in the disciples' room and stand there a few moments in the future. That is, a few seconds prior to the time of His appearance, He was already there. Then, He simply stood still in time, allowing the present to "catch up" with Him. At a preordained moment, all He had to do was begin to move again in synchronism with the flow of time. It is reasonable to say that He had appeared from their future.” (video interview time travelers pt.1)
Could it be that he could either translocate or walk through the wall, no; he had to time travel according to Stearman.
Gary Stearman interview Tom Horn. Transcribed from "Enoch and the Ancients with Tom Horn," Prophecy in the News broadcast, Dec. 11. 2012. http://www.prophecyinthenews.com/enoch-and-the-ancients-with-tom-horn/
He says Revelation is a transcendental book, a wonderful picture of time space “John, the disciple closest to the heart of Jesus, walks through a dimensional door in our past and, travels to a time yet in our future, and returns to tell the world what he saw. They see the end from the beginning, the rise and fall of evil and the final victory of love. They witness time's symmetries and its circles its multiple universes, its creatures and their conflicts, revealing that time is the pattern of redemption. They are the Prophets and Apostles, the world's only documented time travelers. You’ll be amazed at their adventures !”
They, the prophets see the end from the beginning! What verse ever implies this? So now prophets are not shown the future by Word or vision but actually go to the future to see it take place. How long does the prophet stay in the future is not said. For example was John there for 7 years seeing it in real time?
Seeing a vision of the future (Revelation 1:9–11; Daniel 7:13–14) does not mean “time traveling into the future.” It means God who knows the future perfectly shared what will happen with man, by word or by picture.
Rev. 1:10-11 “ I heard behind me a loud voice, as of a trumpet, saying, "I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last," and, " What you see, write in a book and send it to the seven churches…”
John who had the most extensive prophecy, more than Daniel, covers 7 years of the Tribulation and more.
To travel to the future would mean it becomes your present in time, for that is where your life exists. John saw the future, he did not GO to the future to live and see it. Visions John experienced in Revelation were not "time travel," he saw the events. Most of the descriptions are of John seeing from Gods perspective as the events are explained to him. Rev. 4:1 " Come up here, and I will show you things which must take place after this ." Rev. 9:17 "saw the horses in the vision.”
Peter explains “ for prophecy never came by the will of man, but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit .” (2 Peter 1:21)
Moved by Holy Spirit, NOT REMOVED to the future and returned to their time. It says before this in v.20-21 “ knowing this first, that no prophecy of Scripture is of any private interpretation ” but Stearman has made it this, but telling us that men time traveled to get the knowledge of the future to bring it back to their time.
1 Peter 1:10-10 “ Of this salvation the prophets have inquired and searched carefully, who prophesied of the grace that would come to you, searching what, or what manner of time, the Spirit of Christ who was in them was indicating when He testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ and the glories that would follow.
Isa. 46:10 “ I am God, and there is none like Me, Declaring the end from the beginning, And from ancient times things that are not yet done”
God declares it, shares the future with men. 1 Sam. 10: “ Then the Spirit of the LORD will come upon you, and you will prophesy with them and be turned into another man.”
Acts 11:28 “ Agabus, stood up and showed by the Spirit that there was going to be a great famine throughout all the world. ”
The future was revealed by the Spirit who is God, not by time travel.
1 Cor. 13:2 having the gift of prophecy does not mean the ability to time travel. 1 Cor. 14: nowhere is it said they travel in time to prophesy.
Some examples Acts 19:6 Paul had laid hands on them, the Holy Spirit came upon them, and they spoke with tongues and prophesied
Did they vanish into the future to return and prophesy, telling us what they saw?
1 Cor. 14:5 I wish you all spoke with tongues, but even more that you prophesied.”
Is Paul wanting them all to time travel?
One may as well change Eph. 4:11: he Himself gave some to be apostles, some to be prophets: changed to some to be time travelers.
Stearman proves nothing by his explanations, it is not only incoherent but completely removed from the Bible. He claims we see this EXACT SAME THING in the Book of Revelation starting with the 7 churches of Asia minor, Ephesus, ... the initial church of evangelical seed in the first century, you come to Smyrna the church that was giving way to paganism, pergamos the church that has intermarried with the world, you come to the church of Thyatira and it is the church of Idolatry and the next one is Sardis .. a dead church. Philadelphia a church that comes back to life and then Laodicea. And Laodicea is the church going to seed, after God has blessed it, it has come to life it goes to seed. And that's the end of the story. Well, No its not. You turn the page back to where you were and you start the whole cycle over again and this has been the characteristic of the church age , these cycles repeating. He then says they are linear and cyclical... this is the way time is depicted in the Bible just as the Jews did in their celebrations.”
Apparently going in a circle proves his time theory but when they walk straight it proves what? Cycles, patterns do not have anything to do with time or traveling in time for the Churches.
All the 7 churches were literally there in the first century, they were literal gatherings of people in cities back then. This crackpot theory boils over with him saying what is not in the Bible.
The 7 Churches are types which are always present throughout history. We do not have one church after another but all existed at that time. As they do through time in types, having the same characteristics.
The church of Laodicea was lukewarm at the time John wrote them. This is why Jesus calls people out from it as individuals to dine, to have fellowship; there is no seed mentioned.
Stearman then brings mysticism into this by speaking of the repeated number 7 in the Book of Revelation. When you divide the 22 chapters by 7 you get 3.14, the number of PI.”
Well maybe Gary forgot that John did not have numbered chapters when he penned the book. Chapters came over 1,400 years later. Furthermore Revelation has the church age end before chapt. 22, so none of this fits into his theory of PI well, especially when the New Jerusalem descends in Chapter 21:2, 10.
Rev 1:12 seven golden lampstands are representative of the churches. The number seven is not just applied to churches but 7 spirits, thunders, eyes, horns, trumpets and there is not just one set of 7’s. So using the number 7 does not become a formulae for PI.
The Bible indicates that God knows every person's days before they happen, birth to death and everything in between. He knows all our thoughts and ways, that is the God who created and controls all things.
For those who claim they have discovered this new understanding of how God operates.
Isa. 55:8-9 For My thoughts are not your thoughts, Nor are your ways My ways," says the LORD. "For as the heavens are higher than the earth, So are My ways higher than your ways, And My thoughts than your thoughts.”
God does not think like we creatures do, we have a very minute portion of his image in us, he is omni everything, we are omni nothing. When He thinks of what He will make He sees the end of that creation from the beginning, we cannot.
Prophecy means the foretelling or prediction of what is future (short or long term). The prophets spoke in three time frames. There own time, the near future and the far future. Are we to believe they traveled into the future for prophecy for their own time?
Prophecy covers the full panorama of history of mankind as well as Israel. God gave it to His Old Testament and new Testament prophets, John saw the consummation of the ages with Christ ruling and then the new heavens and earth. Only four of the 66 books of the Bible are without prophecy: Ruth, the Song of Solomon, Philemon, and 3 John. Even the shortest book of the Bible mentions prophecy (Jude 14, 17-18, which refers to Enoch and the second coming of the Lord). Out of the Old Testament's 23,210 verses, 6,641 contain predictive material, over twenty eight percent. That would be a lot of time travel for the prophets.
What Stearman is doing is changing Gods nature and how He operates communicating prophecy, It’s a made up theory of theology.
A prophet, is someone who hears on the future and speaks for God. What is declared by a prophet is a divinely inspired prediction, it may also include instruction, and it is always correct.
“have I not told you from that time, and declared it? You are My witnesses.” (Isa.44) God reminds them what he told them in the past to confirm it taking place.
“I declared the former things long ago and they went forth from My mouth, and I proclaimed them. Suddenly I acted, and they came to pass ” (Isaiah 46:9, 10). Prophecy teaches us God is in control of history and brings into the present what He spoke of the future.
“Although I heard, I did not understand. Then I said, “My lord, what shall be the end of these things?” And he said, “Go your way, Daniel, for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end ” (Daniel 12:8,9). Many of the prophets who predicted things far in the future did not understand what they were writing. Daniel says those who live in the time of the end will have understanding of these things.
It is Ironic that a prophecy teacher would teach how prophecy unfolds and interacts with man and be this divorced from Scripture.
Some that reject interpreting the Bible literally, look for an alternative explanation will accept his view. As for those who by faith understand God and His ways in revealing the future they will not go after this theoretical philosophical nonsense but see the Scripture as having the answer.