Messiah wars -another Jesus has come
His followers call him Daddy. They wear T-shirts with De Jesús’ face and the slogan, “GOD HAS COME.” Even their cars proclaim on the license plate: “Creciendo en Gracia: The Government of the Kingdom of God.” Some claim he is “my God”, “my Creator. ”
The man is 60 year old (2006) Puerto Rican José Luis De Jesús Miranda, who is claiming to be the second coming. In 1976 he had a revelation, where the resurrected Jesus came to him and integrated himself, but he does not know why. José Luis De Jesús Miranda says a wondrous thing happened to him in 1976 when he was living in Massachusetts. He says he awoke to find himself flanked by two brawny men (heavenly beings) with stern expressions who told him: “The King of Kings is coming to anoint you.” Before he knew it, he was standing in a luminous marble corridor where trumpets blared and a spectral figure crept toward him. He claims that two took him to a marble hall where an apparition merged with his body and began to hear a man’s voice in his head. De Jesus believes that he and Jesus Christ became one and the same in that instant. “Ever since that day, I can’t learn from anybody—and I mean no one,” De Jesús recently told Miami New Times, a weekly South Florida newspaper.”
The voice continued to offer new revelations in the years after. Then in 1986 it said, “Move to Miami. There you’ll have a bridge to all nations.” So at age 40, De Jesus, his then-wife Nydia, and their five children came to the Magic City, where he secured a fifteen-minute daily slot on WVCG-AM (1080) and began preaching his controversial message.
Prior to this he has had a process of transformation- in 1988, he announced he was the reincarnation of the Apostle Paul. But that did not complete his spiritual transformation- In 1999, he dubbed himself “the Other,” a spiritual super-being who would pave the way for Christ's second coming. In 2004 it was complete, he then proclaimed himself to be Jesus Christ and the sole interpreter of the gospel. This is the worst kind of identity theft there is- to steal Jesus’ name and claim you are Him. But he has gone even further:
“He also tells anyone who will listen that the word Antichrist is a mistranslation. That indeed Jesus was supposed to come again incarnate in a person. Today that person, according to Jose Miranda is him”(666 and “Mr. Jesus” by Dana Smith February 22, 2007).
Similarities to Mormonism should not be overlooked. We are seeing what Joseph Smith may have experienced and is nothing to scoff at, it is just as deadly and serious for those involved (about 100,000 and growing). But this also has a New Age slant/Occult to his revelation of who he is.
De Jesus' family has been ripped apart by all this, not brought together by his ministry. The process began in 1999, when he went from being a mere Apostle to being El Otro. Most Creciendo en Gracia's pastors embraced his new position, but a few resisted. Among those were De Jesus's son, José Luis Jr., who had led a Creciendo church in Colombia and oversaw headquarters' operations.
José Luis Jr. says his objections were only partly theological. “Once my father started presenting himself as God,” he explains, “there was no room for different interpretation. He lost all sense of responsibility to the congregation and his family. It became about José Luis the star.”
De Jesus sees it differently. “I think my son just had a big ego problem,” he says. “He didn't want to submit to me” http://www.miaminewtimes.com/Issues/2006-02-09/news/feature_5.html
De Jesus's four grown daughters also resisted, as did his then-wife, Nydia. “She
developed this type of protection every time I began teaching,” De Jesus says.
“One time she said, 'It doesn't bother you to deceive so many people?'“
Finally in 2004 he named himself Jesus Christ and the ultimate authority on the gospel. Today no one but him — and his right-hand man, Carlos Cestero — are allowed to preach. And De Jesus always dictates the message. Instead of regular sermons, most followers around the world watch videos or simulcasts of these men projected on a screen behind the pulpit. (Source: Jesus Redux, Miami New Times, USA, Feb. 9, 2006).
Wednesday August 23, 2006, marked a historic event for the millions of followers of the renowned Doctor, Apostle Jose Luis De Jesus Miranda, who proclaim Him as “The man Christ Jesus”.
Only De Jesus and Carlos Cestero (his right hand man) are authorized to
Through an internet-transmitted international conference, the nations received a
message entitled: “Paul vs. Rome”. By instructions of the Apostle, Bishop of
bishops Carlos Cestero proved with biblical reference that “sin does not have
dominion over you: for you are not under the law, but under grace” (Ro. 6:14),
and that we are dead to the law (Ro. 7:4) and sin (Ro. 6:2).”
On his Website- he has promised that every religion including Catholics, Protestants, Jewish, Mormons etc. will end. As all their leaders are corrupt in teaching an expired doctrine.”
This Jesus reportedly wears a bulletproof vest when he's preaching in Colombia, retains a battalion of 50 bodyguards across the United States and drives to his Doral church headquarters in an armored Seven Series BMW. The cost of his security detail, which runs upward of $300,000 per year, covered by one of his faithful followers. This is classic cult activity, to say one thing and do another. He comments he won’t die – even if you try to kill me. I can promise you that he will die one day and yet, this may not affect his loyal followers who have willingly blinded themselves to follow him.
400 followers have set up businesses that funnel 20 to 80 percent of their profits into the ministry. Others donate cars, homes, and tens of thousands of dollars in cash and services.
Alvaro Albarracin, who oversees corporate donations to the church and holds the title "entrepreneur of entrepreneurs." Albarracin, who runs the film production company MiamiLa Entertainment, said he gave 20 percent of his profit to the movement when he sold his Web-hosting company, Dialtone, for more than $16 million in 2001” (http://www.wftv.com/news/11101744/detail.html)
Creciendo en Gracia now has about 200 pastors in more than 50 countries. With more than 300 education centers in 30 nations, 200 radio stations His own satellite channel TV program, a 24-hour Spanish language TV channel (300 TV programs) reportedly reaches 2 million. http://www.pressbox.co.uk/detailed/Arts/_Sin_was_removed_exposed_the_man_Christ_Jesus_79019.html
(the newest figures are 335 education centers, 287 radio programs- 2007)
What does Creciendo en Gracia believe?
On the website he says he is the last manifestation of God in the flesh (the Bible says there was only one, not a line of them like Bahai believe).
From start to finish he has got a different story than the Bible but uses Bible terms, redefining them by his sinful heart. He states “the truth is not in the gospels but only in the letters of Paul” If this were true than Paul would be contradicting what the fellow apostles who wrote the gospels said. Yet the Bible says they were in agreement, preaching the same message of faith (Gal. 2:1-2).
He is tells us all religions are going to end as he has set up the government on earth, his Worldwide followers- THE CHURCH- recognized and proclaim him as the Lord, and revealed to all nations that HE IS GOD (Rom.16:25)Website.
His followers say he never claimed to be Jesus but that the church recognized what came out of his mouth was prophesied in the Bible. So are we to believe he did not know who he was (first a reincarnation of John, then another) only to discover years later who he was from an experience when another being (that he thinks is Jesus) merged with him (or took him over- describing a classic case of possession).
Besides not claiming to be Jesus he certainly has claimed to be greater- in a CNN interview Listen to this discussion
José Luis De Jesús Miranda- “I do greater things than Jesus of Nazareth, much greater”
Commentator- “greater things than Jesus of Nazareth
José Luis De Jesús Miranda- “much greater”
Commentator- Does that make you greater than Jesus of Nazareth
José Luis De Jesús Miranda-“I am greater than him”
Commentator- “You are?
José Luis De Jesús Miranda-“Yes because I teach much better than him. He spoke in parables I teach wisdom and revelation.” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmC6LBpBUv4
This mans pride is greater than the combined pride of many deceivers.
On their website in refuting being a false Christ, he says- Mathew 24:24 - Mark 13:22 “For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. Notice how this verse states that the false Christs will come performing what? signs and wonders, The Apostle Jose Luis De Jesus Miranda has not appeared to perform signs and wonders, He has arisen to reveal specific information of the authentic gospel of the uncircumcision (Galatians 2:7).
This is probably the least clever argument ever heard from a false Christ. If Jesus did supernatural works to prove He is the Messiah, how can Miranda claim that because he does not do them proves he is not a false Messiah but the true one? If he is claiming to be Jesus, who DID do miracles, then his argument on this is self contradicting and moot. The Scripture means false signs it does not that it exclude genuine signs and wonders. This man has some very weak flawed arguments for himself. But his gullible followers do not care.
Yet on the website they write, The Lord Himself in the days of His flesh prophesied that He would come again to edify His Church, (John 14:18; Matthew 16:18). His said that His coming would be as the lightning that flashes from the east (Israel) to the west America (Matthew 24:27).
In reference to the same event the Apostle Paul stated that He would come (arrival) as a Thief in the night, one whose coming would not be announced ( 1 Thessalonians 5:2).
He also wrote that, “…the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God:” (1ª Thessalonians 4:16).
The International Ministry Growing In Grace, Inc. firmly believes that according to the evidences found in the gospel Jesus Christ the man is already here on earth, and that He is edifying and establishing His Church.”
He just quoted verses of someone coming down from heaven (what he conveniently left out is that every eye will see this event); problem- he did not come from heaven. This is how bad the Scripture gets twisted for his own personal application. The Bible says Jesus returns to Israel (Zech. 12,14) and is certainly not born to sinful parents like any other man on earth. in fact he is an admitted drug user before he claimed to be Jesus, that hardly qualifies him to be without sin.
This Jesus needs glasses-- He picks up a Bible, opens it saying, “These words are very small for me,” he says. “I can't read them at a distance.” Then he holds up a set of eyeglasses. “But with these I read it perfectly. My teachings are the eyeglasses that your eyes need.” The emphasis is on MINE, not the Bible. For this reason it does not matter what the bible actually says, only what he thinks it says.
De Jesus, or "Daddy" as his thousands of followers call him, does not merely pray to God: He says he is God. (666 and "Mr. Jesus" by Dana Smith February 22, 2007).
Everyone who has ever said they were Jesus or God that were given enough time have become dangerous. Jim Jones, David Koresh etc. But wait, Sun Myung Moon is the Messiah how can he be? Seems that the Messiahs need a meeting to decide who will replace Jesus for the final outcome.
And the word will go forth from Zion or Miami
Can you see the resemblance? Jesus lives in Miami (Mt.24:23).His religious empire is controlled from his Doral headquarters.
On his site it says “Miranda is coming to America The lord of lords and king of kings has arrived in America;” you can’t get more deceived than this.
He separates himself from the word, denying what it says.... the real Jesus is the word made flesh, Jesus will come back in the same manner in which he left just as He said or He would be a liar like Miranda. Jesus is not born to sinful parents, He has sat down at the right hand of the Father in his human body and comes back in that same body Acts 1:11: “This same Jesus, who was taken up from you into heaven, will so come in like manner as you saw Him go into heaven.” “For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout” (1Thess. 4:16).
Miranda calls other religions ''the system,'' and calls his religious messages “codes.” He states, “We're the government of God on Earth,” “We will spread all over and rule the world. We will control the church, the economy, society, education, politics, technology. There will be no war, no corruption. I mean, if a lie can change the world, why can't the truth do it?” (Miami New Times, Feb 9, 2006).
Sounds like a religious, political conspiracy to rule, someone the government should be aware of, but so should the church. Miranda states, “My purpose,” he explains, “is to close down every church so the true church can begin. You could say I'm leading the greatest reformation that has ever happened.”
He actually means deconstruction, the true Jesus set up the church with his hand picked men who wrote the Bible, I do not recall him being one of them. This Jesus is able to lead by deception and have everyone follow in his footsteps of divorce and division and distort the very words of Jesus’ hand picked men.
''We don't believe Christians have the right to call themselves Christians,'' De Jesús said, leaning back in a plush leather chair at his church headquarters, a gray corporate warehouse in Doral. ``For 2,000 years, they used the wrong gospel. (http://www.religionnewsblog.com/15326)
It does not seem to faze him in the least that he has a completely different message, diametrically opposed to the real Jesus (who was a Jew).
He of course we expect similarities to other cults. He denies the Tri-unity like all other cults, “The purpose of this lesson is to affirm that their is only one sovereign God, whose name is Christ Jesus. Which was manifest in three different forms. To also clearly delineate that the so- called doctrine of the trinity is totally antibiblical, because it pretends to establish that God abides in three different persons.” (website). As if three manifestations is the correct view spoken from this new Jesus’ mouth.
On their statement of belief there are probably a few things we can agree with, because there is always some truth alongside the error. But one must also understand their particular interpretations that may at first sound like an evangelical position. For example that “God is the father of the spirits and that He created them before the foundation of the world.” “We Believe that Satan was incarnated in the body of Adam.”
It should not surprise anyone that he says “I don't study the Bible,” he said, chuckling. “I don't go into rooms for prayer. Who am I going to pray to?” (July 22, 2006 Miami Herald: Divine or Dangerous: He's got Disciples.) In fact, he states prayer is a waste of time- the lies began in Rome. Maybe this false Jesus should learn from God’s word before he opens up his mouth and tells people he speaks for Him, or is Him. The REAL Jesus was always in prayer to the Father (Mark 1:12-13 1:35; 7:34; Matthew 4:1-11; 14:13, Luke 4:1-13; 4:42; 5:16; John 11:41-42). Matthew records that He prayed face down (Mt. 26:39). Luke's records that Jesus, “knelt down and began to pray” (Lk. 22:41). If you have people dispense with Bible reading and prayer they are completely open to spiritual deception.
They don't believe the devil exists. He states “Satan is Hollywood character,” yet he lives in his own Hollywood production which has self deceived him, by playing the role of Jesus. He wears fine suits and diamond rings, drives a 7 Series BMW, and lives like the rich and famous. It fits well with the main message promulgated by the false teachers of prosperity in the church, yet he wants nothing to do with the church. His message is of the world and does appeal to those who have a superficial knowledge of the Bible. The Mirandites do not follow the Jesus of the Scriptures but a FALSE Jesus that is now in the world, who speaks like the world and loves the world.
This Jesus wants to be the Devil
Miranda says the devil doesn't exist. Which has been the main lie the Devil himself has used to deceive people, by having them unaware of his scheming. While they claim the devil, hell and sin do not exist, they are more than willing to give him his worship through Miranda. Rev. 13:11 warns of one who looks like a lamb and spoke like a dragon.
He has tattoos of three S's on one arm and the number 666 on the other.
“In January, during a packed worship service at the church, De Jesus took off his coat and revealed the numbers 666 on his forearm.”
“This is a congregation of Antichrists,” De Jesus said, drawing whistles and cheers.
People adorn themselves with shirts and baseball caps, just about anything that can be marked with 666 to prove their allegiance to De Jesus. The church members who branded themselves with 666 and SSS claiming the tattoo does not connect them to Satan but to De Jesus' who has replaced Christ's teachings with his new gospel. While this is not the “official” mark of the beast, (though it is the number of his name) it is showing the contempt to Jesus and control exercised over the people. -- followers get 666 tattoos for their leader--
“Alvaro Albarracin, who oversees corporate donations to the church and holds the title “entrepreneur of entrepreneurs.” Albarracin, who runs the film production company MiamiLa Entertainment, said he gave 20 percent of his profit to the movement when he sold his Web-hosting company, Dialtone, for more than $16 million in 2001.
“This is backing up what I truly believe,” said Alvaro Albarracin, 38, who heads a film production company and joined the church more than a decade ago. He showed a bandage that covered the freshly tattooed “666” on his forearm. “It's like a brand. It's like a sign.”
They mock Jesus and the Bible by doing this, showing that they follow the “new Jesus “, a counterfeit over the real one who actually died for their sins.
Martita Roca, 25, a South Florida singer and actress from Guatemala, said she sometimes gives 40 percent of her salary to Growing in Grace. Giving a piece of her flesh by getting a tattoo was another way to prove her commitment, she said” (Controversial Florida Church Has Followers Get “666” Tattoos http://www.wftv.com/news/11101744/detail.html)
"If somebody tells us drink some Kool-Aid and we'll go to heaven, that's not true. We are already in heavenly places," follower Martita Roca told CNN after having 666 tattooed onto her ankle.” ("Pastor with 666 tattoo claims to be divine”- http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/02/16/miami.preacher/index.html, February 19, 2007).
Miranda is not even a good counterfeit, the promotion of the mark of the beast proves this man is bankrupt in his Bible understanding. (for Jesus warns anyone who takes this mark will not EVER have salvation despite the initials of De Jesus' motto, “salvo siempre salvo,” or “saved always saved.”
“de Jesus says that 666 and the Antichrist are, like him, misunderstood.
The Antichrist is not the devil, de Jesus tells his congregation; he's the being who replaces Jesus on Earth.
"Antichrist is the best person in the world," he says. "Antichrist means don't put your eyes on Jesus because Jesus of Nazareth wasn't a Christian. Antichrist means do not put your eyes on Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Put it on Jesus after the cross." CNN 666 and “Mr. Jesus” by Dana Smith, Feb. 22, 2007
It is false Christ that has people take the mark which is his
name or the number of his name- Rev.13:6. Rev 14:9-11
the wrath of God, is poured out full strength on those who take the mark; Rev.
19:20 Those that received the mark of the beast and those who worshiped his
image are condemned forever.
No sin- no Responsibility
José Luis De Jesús Miranda sates- “ We don’t believe in sin we don’t believe in the Devil, we don’t believe there is such a place like hell” (CNN interview -http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmC6LBpBUv4)
Members believe sin was abolished when Jesus was crucified. Hell is a farce. “God does not see us as sinners” for me you are a perfect spirit. He would come a second time without relation to sin- Miranda says because sin no longer exists.
First of all- I want to ask - Where does it say this? If “evil or sin does not exist” anymore, why is the world in the state its in? Crime, theft, rape, murder, abortion and war are not gone, in fact they are increasing. Why, if there is no more sin? The Bible calls these activities sin and calls all lawlessness and evil sin, they reinterpret it. thus there is no more sin. Why does Miranda have body guards if there is no more sin. Shouldn't he be perfectly safe in a world without sin, especially being the almighty?
His revelation of no more sin came to him from reading Romans 6- the voice said, 'Open your Bible,'“ De Jesus recalls. “So I opened to Romans 6. And he said, 'Read that ... that means you're dead to sin; sin can't reign in your life.” The experience left De Jesus transformed. “Ever since that day, I can't learn from anybody - and I mean no one,” he says. He now believes that was the night of Christ's second coming.
Yet if read carefully it affirms there is sin, that as those who believe and follow Jesus (the true one) must deal with it. Rom. 6:12-13: “Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body, that you should obey it in its lusts. And do not present your members as instruments of unrighteousness to sin, but present yourselves to God as being alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness to God.”
You cannot present your members as instruments of unrighteousness to sin if there is no possibility to sin.
Rom 6:15-16: “What then? Shall we sin because we are not under law but under grace? Certainly not! Do you not know that to whom you present yourselves slaves to obey, you are that one's slaves whom you obey, whether of sin leading to death, or of obedience leading to righteousness?” Paul says we have a choice and we have power to say no, but he never states sin is gone.
Paul even states (after Jesus died for sin) Rom 2:11-12: “For there is no partiality with God. For as many as have sinned without law will also perish without law, and as many as have sinned in the law will be judged by the law” And for himself he says something Miranda cannot-- Rom 7:14-15: “For we know that the law is spiritual, but I am carnal, sold under sin. For what I am doing, I do not understand. For what I will to do, that I do not practice; but what I hate, that I do.”
All the epistles were written after Jesus died and rose again and they deal with sin. 1 Tim.1:9 were written after Jesus died and resurrected- after Miranda claims Jesus did away with all sin.
“knowing this: that the law is not made for a righteous person, but for the lawless and insubordinate, for the ungodly and for sinners, for the unholy and profane” (1 Tim.1:9). Paul a few verses later writes under inspiration of God “This is a faithful saying and worthy of all acceptance, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, of whom I am chief”(1 Tim 1:15).
Miranda is then denying the apostles testimony and their inspiration of the Bible. He denies the reality of sin and its effect in our world-All this in the name of Jesus. This is the spirit of antichrist masquerading as the the genuine Christ.
If Jesus did away with sin for people then we are all okay. This is why so many are willing to listen, it makes them feel secure and good. This teaching that there is no sin when there is, is from the spirit of antichrist, it denies what Jesus came for in his mission and what he will come to punish in his second coming.
This is no small issue but goes to the very heart of the gospel and reality we live in.
Why did Stephen after the cross, inspired by the Holy Spirit say there is sin- Then he knelt down and cried out with a loud voice, “Lord, do not charge them with this sin” (Acts 7:60).
Rom. 2:8 ‘but to those who are self-seeking and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness-- All unrighteousness is sin” (I Jn 5:17).
Miranda is not teaching the truth therefore he is not obeying the truth, he is self seeking, prideful and unrighteous- therefore he sins. John makes it clear I John 1:8-10: “ If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His word is not in us.
So to say we have no sin, we do not sin is calling God (the God that Miranda says he is) a LIAR. So who is the liar to the people? God or Miranda?
On their website: We declare the entire Unites States believing in the true gospel given to the Apostle Paul, and subject to the Apostle José Luis De Jesús Miranda. Has that possible when he contradicts what the apostle Paul wrote, especially on sin? Rom. 7:23-24: “But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members. O wretched man that I am! Who will deliver me from this body of death? Paul equated death with sin.
This mans theology is so topsy-turvey it is amazing that even biblically illiterate people would listen to him. One only has to look at how he interprets scripture as well as being removed from reality to know how far off the mark this man really is.
The Bible says he is coming back to judge sin- and those in Creciendo en Gracia need to heed Paul’s words, that he claims to uphold Eph. 5:6-7: “Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of these things the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience. Therefore do not be partakers with them.” Rom. 1:18: “For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness”
He mocks those who are not in line with him “All those pastors who refer as me as the antichrist false prophet is because they are miserable. Anyone who doesn’t believe in me is miserable” (cheers). Because all I’m doing is bringing people after the cross, not before the cross after the cross, that is where God is- after the cross, and you should be where God is.”
(video- The World will have to submit to Dr. Jose Luis De Jesus Miranda http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8392910572316711599&pr=goog-sl)
I agree people should be where God is, and that means they need to not be where Miranda is.
Right now this is localized to be more of a Hispanic cult, but does bear watching as his TV and radio message expands. I do not see this one ending good at all. This man is infatuated with himself, self deceived and deceiving many others.
“He may wield influence over them, but his followers say don't expect them to go the way of people who believed in David Koresh and Jim Jones. Just by finding de Jesus, they say, they have achieved their purpose.(http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/02/16/miami.preacher/index.html , February 19, 2007).
Miranda can now add his name to the long list of well known modern Messianic wanna be’s like Sun Myung moon, Maitreya, Apollo Quiboloy. But it seems we are in this time period, they are coming out of the walls. There is Lord Brock Lee who tells people to come to his site to see the face of God (himself) and receive His message of the lambs book of life. But there are others that claim God came in the flesh in China, even as a she. So just about anything is entertained these days (http://english.judgmentbeforethethrone.org/home.php)
Let me first warn you - visiting any of these sites can be dangerous as they are very deceptive.
Jesus said “Watch out that no one deceives you. For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am the Christ' and will deceive many.” Some people just want to be the antichrist, like Jose, except they are not smart or talented enough. Not to wonder, the real antichrist is coming and the real Jesus is also coming to destroy him but until that happens we will have to put up with this nonsense. He is single handily speeding up the apostasy- as he claims “I’m going to change the whole world. He is right but in not the way his followers believe - he is fulfilling the warnings the real Jesus gave in the Scripture and he just may be the first of many christ's to come and gain millions as their followers.People will believe what they want, and some want to believe lie more than the truth. José Luis De Jesús Miranda says in one of his interviews: “If this is a cult, this is the best cult I have ever seen, a nice cult, I’m proud to lead a calling like this.” And with that we leave you, the reader, to decide how deceived he and his followers really are.